The venue for this debate is Anderson Cooper’s show on CNN. Meanwhile, Fox is signaling that it is terrified of this story. The network’s spokesmodel hosts have been trashing Sullivan’s article while refusing to invite him on to debate it. (They even blurred his name on a graphic of the Newsweek cover.)
The biggest surprise is that Andrew Sullivan is surprised that the GOP’s propaganda network won’t allow its viewers to hear a dissenting view:
I knew from afar that they were a propaganda channel. Now, in this close-up personal interaction, you realize just how deep the rot goes. This is a channel dedicated to money, power and entertainment, in that order.



This is a fascinating debate, and the economic stuff is actually comprehensible!
Andrew: I am a conservative…. Spending helps growth in short term… spending needed in a deficit because revenues are too low to employ people… Obama inherited a deficit at a 50-year-low. Bush added $5 trillion to deficit–during a boom time when other revenue was available. Obama added to deficit, maximum, $1 trillion, during bad deficit. Therefore, Obama much more fiscally conservative than Bush, and candidate to trust.
Hmmm, very interesting. What do Republican conservatives say about spending and growth? How does economy grow, when revenues at historic lows, besides short-term govt spending?
The banks got all that bail out money and didn’t give consumers loans, so hard to believe breaks for large business would work. I don’t understand what about breaks for small business, what about that?
Please explain clearly, like Andrew was, not so vaguely like Bay was. (And I agree, she didn’t get enough time.)
I hate to say it, because everyone deserves to be heard, but, given the shallowness, vagueness, and weakness of her arguments, how much more should Bay have been heard?