The Daily Beast provided this excerpt of an interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the Pushing the Limits podcast with Brian Shapiro on KHSP radio in Las Vegas:

“Listen, I have adult kids. I don’t know how old your kids are … believe me, your ability to influence your kids after a certain age basically approaches zero.”

Kennedy said he raised his kids “to disagree with me, to challenge me, but also to tell the truth.”

Then the story took a twist.

“I offered my kids vaccine cards and said, ‘I don’t want you to take this product,’ because I had read the clinical trial data,” Kennedy added in the interview. “And they said, no, they didn’t want to do it, because they didn’t want to lie. They didn’t want to lie to their friends. So, they made their own decision—that they wanted to go to law school, they wanted to go to school, and that they had to take this risk. And they did it.”

The Daily Beast reported that the Kennedy campaign did not answer a request for comment on how the candidate procured the bogus vaccine cards.

Under federal law, as well as state and some local laws, obtaining and presenting a fake vaccine card is illegal.